From hecker at mozillafoundation.org  Mon Oct 19 14:56:02 2009
From: hecker at mozillafoundation.org (Frank Hecker)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:56:02 +0000
Subject: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Lynch G (CCI) <glynch at glam.ac.uk> wrote:
> New to the list, I'm hoping somebody here will have some precedent with the
> following and may be able to answer my query.

I can't answer your query about certification/affiliate programs
involving open source, but had a separate comment to make.

> I teach in higher education and have recently validated an undergraduate
> degree called Interactive Media for the Arts scheduled to start in September
> 2010.? This is a new media arts degree primary aimed at students interested
> in creatively engaging with digital / interactive / networked technologies
> and applying them both in their own right but also to other disciplines such
> as performance, built environments etc.

Sounds interesting. Is this the degree to which you're referring?

  http://www.glam.ac.uk/coursedetails/685/915

> A significant part of the award will employ open source software which has
> been targeted specifically at that type of creative individual, e.g.
> Processing, Puredata etc. Within the contextual studies for the award we
> will also discuss the changes open source as a movement have brought about.

Note that as part of our Mozilla Education activities we have an
initiative under way specifically to expand the current processing.js
work into a complete implementation of Processing for the open web:

  https://wiki.mozilla.org/Education/Projects/ProcessingForTheWeb

It may be of interest to you or your students. If so please contact me
separately and I can tell you more about it. We're very interested in
reaching out to and working with people in academia beyond computer
science departments.

Frank

-- 
Frank Hecker

From glynch at glam.ac.uk  Mon Oct 19 16:29:35 2009
From: glynch at glam.ac.uk (Lynch G (CCI))
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:29:35 +0100
Subject: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
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Hi

Yes that's the course, web page is a little sparse at the moment as we are only getting off the ground.  As a response to this and the previous email in this thread I just want to clarify that we are not looking to affliate ourselves with a organisation or company using open source - it's an affliation with the movement itself so perhaps OSI or maybe even Creative Commons.

That aside I was looking at processing.js a few weeks ago and it looks great as a genuinely viable alternative to using Flash or Shockwave.  Hopefully this will re-invigorate the online arts/design community who used to create this sort of interactive animation (e.g. net.art).  I'd be keen to see the developments your proposing happen and I'm sure students would too.

I've just been chasing up some more info on all of this and curiously came accross this:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/04/uk_unis_loving_linux/
In my experince teaching in higher education in England and Wales a lot of what is said in this article is true.  "Open source software is more common on servers than on desktops" because the people who deal with the tech in universities are never too keen to let what they consider as desktop users get there hands on it - there is a trust issue there.

Some government policy passed this year but little in the way of pragmatic advice on how to take advantage of it:
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/cio/transformational_government/open_source.aspx

Garrett

----------------------------------------------------------
Garrett Lynch
Senior Lecturer in New Media
Cardiff School of Creative & Cultural Industries
University of Glamorgan



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 10/19/2009 15:56
To: Lynch G (CCI)
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Subject: Re: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
 
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Lynch G (CCI) <glynch at glam.ac.uk> wrote:
> New to the list, I'm hoping somebody here will have some precedent with the
> following and may be able to answer my query.

I can't answer your query about certification/affiliate programs
involving open source, but had a separate comment to make.

> I teach in higher education and have recently validated an undergraduate
> degree called Interactive Media for the Arts scheduled to start in September
> 2010.? This is a new media arts degree primary aimed at students interested
> in creatively engaging with digital / interactive / networked technologies
> and applying them both in their own right but also to other disciplines such
> as performance, built environments etc.

Sounds interesting. Is this the degree to which you're referring?

  http://www.glam.ac.uk/coursedetails/685/915

> A significant part of the award will employ open source software which has
> been targeted specifically at that type of creative individual, e.g.
> Processing, Puredata etc. Within the contextual studies for the award we
> will also discuss the changes open source as a movement have brought about.

Note that as part of our Mozilla Education activities we have an
initiative under way specifically to expand the current processing.js
work into a complete implementation of Processing for the open web:

  https://wiki.mozilla.org/Education/Projects/ProcessingForTheWeb

It may be of interest to you or your students. If so please contact me
separately and I can tell you more about it. We're very interested in
reaching out to and working with people in academia beyond computer
science departments.

Frank

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From hecker at mozillafoundation.org  Mon Oct 19 16:38:44 2009
From: hecker at mozillafoundation.org (Frank Hecker)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:38:44 +0000
Subject: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lynch G (CCI) <glynch at glam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Yes that's the course, web page is a little sparse at the moment as we are
> only getting off the ground.? As a response to this and the previous email
> in this thread I just want to clarify that we are not looking to affliate
> ourselves with a organisation or company using open source - it's an
> affliation with the movement itself so perhaps OSI or maybe even Creative
> Commons.

Understood. I don't know if either OSI or Creative Commons are
contemplating formal affiliation/"branding" efforts like what you're
suggesting. At Mozilla we are planning a "Drumbeat" initiative
<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Drumbeat> around promoting the open web that
has aspects of this (see for example the "We Make the Web" idea), but
we're still in early stages. Also, Drumbeat is more open web-centric
than open source-centric, though open source and "free culture" are
two of the movements we're piggybacking on.

Frank

-- 
Frank Hecker

From acoliver at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 18:19:47 2009
From: acoliver at gmail.com (Andrew Oliver)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:19:47 -0400
Subject: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
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ATM we're working on the infrastructure to support the education
effort.  We worked out something of a vision earlier in the year and
are collecting some initial materials.  I think the main idea is to
have a set of master materials in various languages that are coherent
with regards to what open source is, how it is made and how one can
get involved in open source.  From there resources on how people can
use this to create their own open source education campaigns based on
stuff that has worked for FOSSFA in Africa and similar efforts in
India and around the world.  And serve as a general forum for
organizing and collaborating.

I don't think we're likely to get in to this "certification" bits
because that requires a specific technology vertical in general.
Meaning someone can be fully educated on what open source is and how
it works without ever touching the "LAMP" stack.  Perhaps they use
BSD, Postgresql and OpenJDK/IcedTea or Ruby, etc.

-Andy

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Lynch G (CCI) <glynch at glam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Yes that's the course, web page is a little sparse at the moment as we are
> only getting off the ground.? As a response to this and the previous email
> in this thread I just want to clarify that we are not looking to affliate
> ourselves with a organisation or company using open source - it's an
> affliation with the movement itself so perhaps OSI or maybe even Creative
> Commons.
>
> That aside I was looking at processing.js a few weeks ago and it looks great
> as a genuinely viable alternative to using Flash or Shockwave.? Hopefully
> this will re-invigorate the online arts/design community who used to create
> this sort of interactive animation (e.g. net.art).? I'd be keen to see the
> developments your proposing happen and I'm sure students would too.
>
> I've just been chasing up some more info on all of this and curiously came
> accross this:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/04/uk_unis_loving_linux/
> In my experince teaching in higher education in England and Wales a lot of
> what is said in this article is true.? "Open source software is more common
> on servers than on desktops" because the people who deal with the tech in
> universities are never too keen to let what they consider as desktop users
> get there hands on it - there is a trust issue there.
>
> Some government policy passed this year but little in the way of pragmatic
> advice on how to take advantage of it:
> http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/cio/transformational_government/open_source.aspx
>
> Garrett
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Garrett Lynch
> Senior Lecturer in New Media
> Cardiff School of Creative & Cultural Industries
> University of Glamorgan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hecker at hecker.org on behalf of Frank Hecker
> Sent: Mon 10/19/2009 15:56
> To: Lynch G (CCI)
> Cc: osi-edu-discuss at members.opensource.org
> Subject: Re: [osi-edu-discuss] Open Souce in Higher Education
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Lynch G (CCI) <glynch at glam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> New to the list, I'm hoping somebody here will have some precedent with
>> the
>> following and may be able to answer my query.
>
> I can't answer your query about certification/affiliate programs
> involving open source, but had a separate comment to make.
>
>> I teach in higher education and have recently validated an undergraduate
>> degree called Interactive Media for the Arts scheduled to start in
>> September
>> 2010.? This is a new media arts degree primary aimed at students
>> interested
>> in creatively engaging with digital / interactive / networked technologies
>> and applying them both in their own right but also to other disciplines
>> such
>> as performance, built environments etc.
>
> Sounds interesting. Is this the degree to which you're referring?
>
> ? http://www.glam.ac.uk/coursedetails/685/915
>
>> A significant part of the award will employ open source software which has
>> been targeted specifically at that type of creative individual, e.g.
>> Processing, Puredata etc. Within the contextual studies for the award we
>> will also discuss the changes open source as a movement have brought
>> about.
>
> Note that as part of our Mozilla Education activities we have an
> initiative under way specifically to expand the current processing.js
> work into a complete implementation of Processing for the open web:
>
> ? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Education/Projects/ProcessingForTheWeb
>
> It may be of interest to you or your students. If so please contact me
> separately and I can tell you more about it. We're very interested in
> reaching out to and working with people in academia beyond computer
> science departments.
>
> Frank
>
> --
> Frank Hecker
>
>
>
>
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:02 PM, thomas mcclure <thomasmcclurester at gmail.com
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> data warehouses and data marts that give users 100% ad hoc analysis
> capabilities. Frankly, we're in a unique position to be choosy when it comes
> to bringing on new data warehouse limited managers. [*using a database of
> over 19.2 million values contained in 3.2 million records?all housed on a
> $1500, off-the-shelf Dell Vostro 1500 dual core laptop with 4 Gb of RAM].
>
>
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Database/iLuminate-40-Overcomes-Data-Warehouse-Hurdles-221148<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=13582678&msgid=119538&act=GIRI&c=581752&admin=0&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eweek.com%2Fc%2Fa%2FDatabase%2FiLuminate-40-Overcomes-Data-Warehouse-Hurdles-221148>
>
> [iLuminate 4.0 Overcomes Data Warehouse Hurdles
> Executive Editor Jason Brooks can be reached at jbrooks at eweek.com.
> By: Jason Brooks
> 2009-06-04
>
>   Table of Contents:
> iLuminate 4.0 Overcomes Data Warehouse Hurdles
> iLuminate in the Lab
> Loading and Administration]
>
> [I tested iLuminate on a Sun Microsystems Sun Fire x4200 server with a pair
> of dual-core 2.39GHz AMD processors and 8GB of RAM, running the 64-bit
> version of Windows Server 2008 Enterprise. (iLuminate has a Linux version of
> its engine in the works for later in 2009.)]
>
> [For my test data, I used campaign finance data from the Center for
> Responsive Politics' OpenSecrets.org site. The data, which was stored in a
> series of CSV (comma-separated values)-formatted text files, detailed
> campaign contributions, candidates, political action committees and
> expenditures spanning the 1990 to 2008 election cycles.]
>
> [For example, I searched for instances of the word "songwriter" in the
> occupation field of the individual contributions table and turned up 410
> records out of about 15 million in 0.8 seconds.]
>
> [I found that while my data set covered 1990 to 2008, my search turned up
> results only from 2002 to 2008, which led me to wonder whether the field I'd
> searched on had been used in the same way over the entire span of my data
> set.]
>
> [To find out whether this was the case, I searched for "songwriter" across
> the whole table, and found 2,229 instances. This broader search took 4.5
> minutes to complete.]
>
> [The data set, which added up to about 30 million records, encompassed more
> than 545 million values, about 49 million of which were unique. Because of
> iLuminate's data pool plus index approach, in which each value is stored
> only once, there's a sort of deduplication at work here, which saved on
> database size. My test database occupied around 10GB of disk space.] [Search
> 0.8 seconds; Select 4.5 minutes - tm]
>
> [I loaded my largest test table?the 15-million-record, CSV-formatted
> individual contributions table?with each tool. The Importer took about 1.5
> hours to complete the load, and iLook&Load required about 5.5 hours to do
> the job.][Load 6 min/million]
>
> We're receiving constant inquiries from companies that want to sell our
> correlation database, but we're only interested in developing managers with
> data warehouse and business intelligence and savvy IT consulting services
> and management consulting services firms. Ones that are betting the farm on
> being able to help customers in these areas.
> www.professionallcfilm.wetpaint.com<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=13582678&msgid=119538&act=GIRI&c=581752&admin=0&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.professionallcfilm.wetpaint.com>
>
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> geographies you cover. We want to see that you understand data warehousing
> and business intelligence and that you have a track record of delivering to
> your customers.
> We also need you to have bold growth plans.
>
> The Professional Limited Company [Professiona llc] is a group of limited
> managers who provide referrals and act as agents for illuminate inc and
> accessanywhere inc and datadepositbox.com and infusionsoft.com.
>
> A public service message by Professiona llc.
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